Media: Radio-Podcasts: Our Flashsonar clicks have echoed across radio networks and podcasts worldwide. Image: Collage of photos and logos from various radio iand podcast interviews, such as NPR, The BBC, The Naked Scientists podcast at Cambridge University, and more.


Image: Logo of The Naked Scientists Podcast our of the University of Cambridge. Illustration shows a parody of Leonardo D'aVinci's Vetruvian man with the foreground person wearing a bowler hat, sunglasses and a labcoat with arms extended outward and upward while a black silhouette of another person behind him has their legs and arms extended horizontally. Click here to go to their Facebook page.

The Naked Scientists on Durham Study

Online/Podcast – 03-April 2018

How do some people use sound to see? Georgia Mills of The Naked Scientists podcast spoke with Workshop Visioneer J Steele-Louchart and  Dr. Lore Thaler of Durham University in Great Britain.

Lead Visioneer Daniel Kish and some of our Instructor Visioneers have been working with Dr. Thaler on echolocation studies for a number of years.

The results of their latest work, co-authored by Daniel, have been published in the Journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B Biological Sciences.

Learn more about the study in our Special Report.

Visioneers:Media: Radio-Podcasts: Podcast: Louchart and Thaler on Study. Image: Naked Scientists Podcast logo with the headline: A world of silhouettes:Seeing with sound. Link to their podcast page.

NPR: National Public Radio Network (United States)

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How To Become Batman

NPR: Invisibilia – January 23, 2015
With Alix Spiegel and Lulu Miller

A veteran of NPR’s Science Desk for a decade, Alix Spiegel joined NPR Science Reporter Lulu Miller to co-host Invisibilia, a series about the unseen forces that control human behavior – our ideas, beliefs, assumptions, and thoughts. Excerpts of the show are featured on the NPR’s Morning Edition and All Things Considered. The program is also available as a podcast.

“Can other people’s expectations of you alter what you can do physically? Invisibilia investigates that question – specifically, they look into something that sounds impossible: if people’s expectations can change whether a blind man can see.”

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Falling Off A Cliff | A Blind Woman Gains New Freedom, Click By Click

NPR: Invisibilia | Morning Edition – January 23, 2015
Lulu Miller

Lulu Miller, co-host of Invisibilia, interviews Julee-anne Bell, a blind woman from Australia, about her experiences in learning FlashSonar™ Echolocation from World Access For The Blind President Daniel Kish. Julee-anne also explains some of the unforeseen fallout of her increasing independence from her family.

The interview didn’t make it into the show, but was posted online at NPR as part of the Invisibilia podcast at this link, while another version aired on NPR’s Morning Edition at this link.

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How Can You See Without Seeing?

NPR: TED Radio Hour – November 20, 2015
With Guy Raz

A segment from an episode about adaptation, featuring an in depth interview with Daniel Kish in connection with his TED talk.

When he was 13 months old, Daniel Kish lost both eyes to retinal cancer. He taught himself to navigate by clicking his tongue and listening for echoes — a method science calls echolocation, and Kish calls FlashSonar™.

In 2000, Kish founded World Access for the Blind as a platform to teach FlashSonar™, along with other methods that blind people can use to “see” and that seeing people can use to expand their awareness.

NPR: TED Radio Hour with Daniel Kish. How can you see without seeing? Screengrab image shows thumbnail of video of Daniel Kish speaking at TED.

Articles and Differing Perspectives About The NPR Interviews 

We’ve collected a good number of articles that further the conversation about the issues raised in the NPR interviews with Daniel Kish, Julee-anne Bell and others, including one that takes the process to task under the banner of ‘Inspiration Porn’.

You can read through the collection that we’ve gathered on its own page at this link.

BBC: British Broadcasting Corporation (United Kingdom)

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Batman and Ethan

BBC Radio4: February 14, 2016
Presented by Helena Merriman

Ethan was born blind. He’s (at the time of broadcast) a 10 year-old boy who collects sounds on his 51 dictaphones, composes and performs music. He’s been offered a place at St Mary’s Music School in Scotland – one of the best in the country. The problem is he struggles to get around.

This is where Batman comes in. His real name is Daniel Kish and like Ethan he’s blind. He’s a master of echolocation. He’s taught people all over the world to “see through sound”. “Batman” (Daniel) comes to Scotland to spend 10 days with Ethan, to teach him echolocation and help him prepare for his new school.

BBC: New Mobility For A Blind Prodigy. Image: BBC Radio 4 logo and photo of Daniel Kish and Ethan David Loch with the title Batman and Ethan.
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School ‘Expels Blind Girl’s Cane

BBC Radio4: In Touch – December 1, 2015
With Peter White

The story of a little blind girl at a little school in Bristol, England quickly went viral as the world learned she was told by her school to leave her long navigation cane at home.

A Health & Safety Risk Assessment was behind the seemingly cruel order which resulted from the discredited assessor’s ignorance of the scholarly evidence of the benefits of ‘full-length canes’ – much of it written by WAFTB’s Daniel Kish.

In this episode of In Touch, host Peter White travels to Bristol to talk with Lily-Grace and her mum, Kristy.

BBC: School 'expels' blind girl's cane. Image: BBC Radio 4 In Touch logo with photos of host Peter White, and Peter visiting with Lily-Grace Hooper and her mother in Bristol, England.
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Culture Clash On Canes And Mobility?

BBC Radio4: In Touch – December 8, 2015
With Peter White

Host Peter White, who is blind himself, follows up on his interview with Lily-Grace Hooper – the young blind girl told by her school to leave her long navigation cane at home – by speaking with WAFTB President Daniel Kish, who has helped to pioneer the usage of these ‘full-length’ canes. Daniel happened to be on-assignment in the UK at the time and provided scholarly evidence of the benefits of these canes in the development of blind children.

Peter White also asks Daniel why an American has to travel thousands of miles to teach echolocation orientation and mobility to UK children.

Radio: BBC: Culture clash on canes and mobility. Image. Module for BBC4 In Touch shows photos of host Peter White and guest Daniel Kish. Daniel is standing with Lily-Grace Hooper, her family and friends in Bristol, England.
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Jeremy Vine With The Real-Life Batman

BBC Radio2 – April 2016

Daniel Kish, President of World Access For The Blind, explains the processes involved in FlashSonar™ Echolocation, pulsed signals made by clicking on the roof of the mouth with your tongue.

The echoes from these clicks have been scientifically proven to activate the brain’s Visual Cortex with acoustic imaging, enabling a blind person to ‘see with sound’.

The interpretation of this ‘imaging’ takes time to learn and decipher. Daniel gives Jeremy Vine an on-air demonstration of finding an object on the studio desk in this excerpt from the full program.

BBC Radio 2. Jeremy Vine With Real-Life-Batman. Image. Photos and artwork show Jeremy & Daniel and related program information.


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MEDIA: TV|VIDEO: DANIEL KISH VOTED A TOP-TEN TALK AT TED. Image: Daniel Kish, President of World Access For The Blind, stands onstage with the TED logo behind him.


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